Prophesy Ignored?


As I mentioned in my post below, Conservapedia is already dead in the water, if not floundering at the gunwales. However, it wasn’t always so. At the beginning of 2009, it was a vibrant and happening, albeit it odd, little community. There were regularly over 100 different active editors a week, there were conversations and friendly chats going between talk-pages and the sysops were even inclined to enter into a debate – until they started losing said debate, of course.

Roll forward almost two years, and the little community is looking very run down. The long-time residents have effectively put barricades across the roads, allowing none in, except those who sneak past the defences, and are speedily shot, before they can smash any more windows. The vibrant little community has shrunk to a few old-timers (barely more than 40 editors as week – and 90% of those are blocked with in 1 edit), who no longer talk, but peer out at the world from behind their curtains, shotgun close at hand.

Now, you might be asking why I’m waxing all lyrical like this? Well, I’m going to go back to an e-mail that was sent to Conservapedia’s inner sanctum, by a former sysop during May 2009, with whom I’ve developed a close relationship. I’m not going to quote the whole letter, suffice to say she was angry and frustrated at the time she wrote it. This is also the same letter to which Ed Poor replied, “That’s not the way we work here.” (as discussed in The Fine Art of Backstabbing.) Anyway, here’s the e-mail, ah to hell with it, I’ll paste the full text – it gives better context.

However, as you once said Brian, TK needs to come down off his high horse and Ed, you said you like to operate as a surgeon excising all that is wrong. Let us see if you can live up to what you say.

As we know, TK’s favourite defence when confronted with anything, is to claim that the e-mails, IRC chats and trolling on other people’s talk pages (as he has done on mine elsewhere) are fraudulent copies. If that is the case, then at least CP’s own entries speak for themselves.

So, what are the allegations.

  • Attempting to discredit CP by distorting news articles on the front page – adding “internet vandals” to the “Saudi Death Chip” article (later removed, when even he prossibly realised how stupid it looked), claiming VP Biden is a drinker (which could open CP up to a libel claim, should his office be made aware of such a claim).
  • Added to this is the ongoing abuse of editors.
  • He then publicly attacks Conservative, stating that Andy has allowed for both views to be included in articles (I can find no mention of that in my e-mails so maybe it happened after Andy’s knee-jerk reaction). However, when it is pointed out that the article has nothing to do with a non-YEC viewpoint and has no room for including the evolutionary viewpoint, only then does TK “no longer want to discuss it on-wiki”, having been made to look foolish, but having scored another point in the game he is playing.
  • Jinx is another example. Surely, there is no coincidence between Jinx raising the issue of using inverted commas as “Humor” (note the non-multicultural spelling) and TK’s blocking and the subsequent removal of rights. The only reason he is still around is in some misgotten notion that they will be restored.

Most seriously, TK was seriously out of line when he arbitrarily made changes to the blocking reasons, thus rendering ZB (the sysops’ Google talk group, the Zeulodon Blues) null and void by his own actions. He somehow thinks he is above discussing things within ZB, before they are done, and once again adding items such as “liberal multiculturism” makes CP look stupid, narrow-minded and even bigoted. However, the lack of action seems to indicate the other members of ZB are happy with this turn of events, so it is probably best that I have withdrawn.

How many editors have left since his return (excluding those that he conveniently brands as vandals)? Philip, Foxtrot, Bill, Taj, Tash, BrianCo are just a few long-serving names that come to mind. (To that add Jallen, DeanS, WesleyS, CPalmer, AddisonJ, the list goes on and on) The recent changes list these days, is starting to look a little barren.

If the remaining administrators have any sense of what is right, they will take action to redress these wrongs, or will they continue to sit back and allow CP to be run into the ground? As I have mentioned to Ed and others – have a look at the dwindling list of names in your recent changes. Alarm bells should be ringing.

Ok, so hindsight is 20/20, but damn if that girl didn’t hit the nail on the head.

About PsyGremlin

PsyGremlin is a former Conservapedia sysop (although the position was earned nefariously), stand up comedian, DJ, and is currently a self-employed financial adviser, who impersonates a responsible adult at least 5 days a week. However, highlighting and poking fun at the crazies out there remains his first love. Well besides pork crackling. And custard. And cricket.
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8 Responses to Prophesy Ignored?

  1. Jim says:

    “[…] claiming VP Biden is a drinker (which could open CP up to a libel claim, should his office be made aware of such a claim).”

    Not quite. Public officials, especially ones as high profile as the Vice President, don’t usually go after private individuals for defamation. The bar is also set much higher for defamation of public officials, since after all, it is very easy to disprove that Biden is a drinker.

    This reminds me of a conversation I had while waiting for the Metro.

    “And how much does Joe Biden drink?”

    “Joe Biden is drunk 24/7!”

    “Trick question! He is actually completely teetotal.”

  2. The ghost of GaryJ says:

    GaryJ really showed Terry for the rotten person he is in that exchange.

  3. Norseman says:

    GaryJ whut?

    Is this a message from my beloved beauty? :3

    • cpmonitor says:

      Indeed, this was Jessica’s last hurrah, to give the CP sysops one final piece of her mind. Which, of course, they all ignored, apart from Ed’s stupidity. And just look where they are today. Clever girl, that. 🙂

    • The ghost of GaryJ says:

      Is that you HSMom? You were the only reasonable one after KotomiT left. What’s become of you?

      • cpmonitor says:

        She was also driven off by Terry. She stayed away for a long time, then came back and suggested some grammatical changes to the main page. TK reverted these and snapped at her on her userpage. She basically gave up on the project after that. Links:

  4. The ghost of GaryJ says:

    Does anyone know who Hsmom was? She was very nice to me when I was editing Conservapedia and I would like to thank her. Does she edit the other site?

    • cpmonitor says:

      I only knew her as HSMom, but she really was one of the nicer, more genuine people on CP – who actually cared about running it as an encyclopaedia. She was active for a day on ASok back in 2009, as Hsmom. Maybe her e-mail is active on that site. AFAIK, she hasn’t been blocked on CP, so maybe you can still contact her from there – /if/ editing is ever opened, /if/ account creation is turned on, /if/ Terry doesn’t block you before you can post.

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