Ray Comfort – Proving Gandhi right

Ray Comfort, possibly the dumbest man alive not called Kirk Cameron, and certainly one of the poster boys of everything that is awful about evangelical Christianity, is pissed at Mahatma Gandhi. Because, it seems that Gandhi wasn’t as big a fan boy of Jesus, as Ray is. (Spoiler – Gandhi was a Hindu, so no real surprise there.)

Ray turned to his loyal echo chamber on Facebook, with the following post:

“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.” Mahatma Gandhi

Mr. Gandhi, did you ever say that you were God in human form, or did you still a storm with your voice, walk on water, raise the dead, and perfectly predict the future? Were you morally perfect–in thought, in word, and in deed? Did you warn that you would raise all humanity from the dead and judge them? Did you raise your body three days after your death, and ascend into Heaven?

Unless I’m dreadfully mistaken, you did not. Then you too, sir, were so unlike our Jesus. You too were a sinner, desperately needing God’s mercy. I hope you were trusting in Jesus on that fateful day when death suddenly came to you. We will find out on Judgment Day.

Now, there is so much wrong with this, that I barely know where to begin. Needless to say, I tend to be very skeptical about random quotes tossed around on the internet – especially by people as well known for their quote-mining, and general dishonesty, as Ray, so I turned to Google to see if I could verify the quote.

Imagine my surprise when I found that it is very likely that Gandhi said no such thing. Wikiquote lists it under their “Disputed quotes” section, attributing it to a missionary, called Jones, who used the quotation in his book “Gandhi, an Interpretation.” If Gandhi said anything at all along those lines, it would have been, “I know of no one who has done more for humanity than Jesus. In fact, there is nothing wrong with Christianity… The trouble is with you Christians. You do not begin to live up to your own teachings.” (attributed to one James E. McEldowney)

And therein lies the greatest difference between what Comfort says Gandhi said, and what Gandhi most likely said. In fact, looking at some of Gandhi’s other quotes he probably wasn’t a big fan of Christianity, mostly because he’d witnessed what was being done in its name both in South Africa and India. Here’s two examples:

  • It is impossible for me to reconcile myself to the idea of conversion after the style that goes on in India and elsewhere today. It is an error which is perhaps the greatest impediment to the world’s progress toward peace … Why should a Christian want to convert a Hindu to Christianity? Why should he not be satisfied if the Hindu is a good or godly man? (Harijan – 30 January 1937)
  • “Hate the sin and not the sinner” is a precept which, though easy enough to understand, is rarely practiced, and that is why the poison of hatred spreads in the world. (from An Autobiography, 1927)

The second point is especially prescient, given Comfort’s mocking ending to his post, where he’s basically gloating over the fact that in his mind Gandhi is burning in hell, because he wasn’t a Christian. Yeah, one of the holiest men around, who took on an Empire armed with a loin cloth, a spinning wheel and some salt-making equipment (ok, that’s a very simplistic view) – and a dribbling moron like Comfort is virtually gloating over the fact that somebody – whom Comfort isn’t worthy of groveling in front of – is suffering eternal torment because he doesn’t share the same twisted worldview as Comfort.

Then again, I’m sure Ray spends many night masturbating furiously stroking a banana and thinking about how all those horrible people who keep pointing out his endless bullshit are going to end up in hell. Because that’s the kind of person he is.

Now, let’s ignore Comfort’s fantastic “oh-yeah-well-you-didn’t-raise-anybody-from-the-dead-either-so-you’re-also-not-like-Christ” missing the point response, because it is so childish that is doesn’t deserve further comment. Let us focus instead on what Gandhi most likely said: “You do not begin to live up to your own teachings.” Let’s have a quick look at some of those teachings:

  • “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.”
  • “It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the Kingdom of Heaven”
  • “For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted.”
  • “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions, and give to the poor, and you shall have treasure in Heaven.”
  • “And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others.”
  • The commandments, “You shall not commit adultery,” “You shall not murder,” “You shall not steal,” “You shall not covet,” and whatever other command there may be, are summed up in this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.”
  • “Give to everyone who begs from you, and from one who takes away your goods do not demand them back.”
  • “Let him who is without sin cast the first stone.”

 Now, there’s some great teachings that I honestly feel that people can get behind. Don’t be a dick, don’t be a show-off, look after those less fortunate and hey, just accept people for who they are. Just imagine how much better the world would be if people actually did this?

Just a shame that Comfort and so many other Christians don’t follow these teachings, but prefer to act like vile bigots, tending their own persecution complex with made-up quotes.

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2 Responses to Ray Comfort – Proving Gandhi right

  1. David Samuel says:

    He also missed the most important point about Jesus. He was God who became a man who sinned “for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God” Romans 3:23. He was therefore as sympathetic as a man is to the plight of man. Redemption in the eyes of God is possible because God knows what it is to be a sinner having been one himself. I’m sure they think the immaculate conception thing makes Jesus clean of sin but I don’t see anywhere in the bible that say any conception is dirty. He certainly wasn’t born clean of original sin. That’s why he was baptized, right? But of course most people like that are so ignorant that they don’t understand their own bible even when they read it every day. Like it’s said; baboons can read Spinoza. They just don’t understand it.

  2. robma48@gmail.com says:

    The problem with this site is that you are trying to stick to facts, logic and intellectual rigor when making a point. The religious bigots you are up against, however, have no interest in any of that. As a result your site achieves very little. Religion is very adaptive to inconvenient truths – the Mormon Churches response to the discovery of DNA and it’s implications for the Pacific migration of Christianity to America is a good example.

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